Bestigor completion

I did some shading, a little bit of blending, some more dry brushing and then really worked hard on the champion.

On his right wrist I did some nice work*. I particularly like the black line deep in it. I also worked hard on his various medallions, trying to get them to stand out and be clear from the background.

The real irony in this is nobody but me will ever notice these details. This will not turn out to be a show army, it will look little or no better on the tabletop than any other army I have ever done, and arguably look worse than the oil based armies I have done in the past.

But I will know how much effort I put into the detail. Weirdly, the harder I work on them, the more it matters.

So there is the unit, painted and based, waiting for clear coating. For a while I kept tweaking them until suddenly I thought, hey...there comes a point when you need to just...stop...painting.

Here they are after the clear-coat. And I am happy. They have different shadings. This is something new for me. Always before I tried to get my armies to look uniform. Same skin tones. Same eye color. Uniforms identical. I am deliberately not doing that with the Beastmen.

It started with the Albino champion. It has been developing with each succeeding unit. They are similar...not identical.

I also toyed a bit with how to get them to align so both rows mattered. I think they look "right" as a unit. They are not rigidly lined up in lock step but slightly off center from each other representing the undisciplined Beastmen troops.

I am happy. I think with this unit I did some very nice work.



* When I speak of nice, good, etc. I am meaning in relation to my own painting skills, not those of people who actually do NICE work.

Bestigors continued

 So I did a lot with washes and dry brushes. Part of the problem is I must not wait long enough on the dry brushes...or else my washes are too wet. Case in point: Check out the second model from the left. His right leg (on the left as you look at it) seems to have lost a lot of surface paint. Furthermore, I had a hard time darkening it.

Once more I went ivory on the horns, did a black wash, then dry brushed the ivory again. I think I would like them slightly "brighter" but overall I think it gives them a nice, nuanced look.

I also like the wash on the armor and cloth hoods, particularly on the left two models in the front rank.

Sadly, after this I really got bad about taking pictures. A lot of times the coats were so subtle I could not tell the difference...which is actually what I am supposed to be doing on purpose. So yeah. I guess it works.

Bestigor color swatch

Funny thing is, the above models are apparently already beyond "tabletop standard". They have four colors; base brown, black, red, silver and green.

Thing is...I am just getting started. I am nowhere near happy with how they look either up close, nor from eye-level distance when painting them.

A quick wash to darken them and they look a bit better.

I also note the white does a poor job of covering over the silver. I actually have a couple shades of white, so I might just try to pick that up on a dry-brush type thing to provide some shading. We will see.

I like how they are coming along. The biggest problem I have is with "just" 10 models, they paint up so quickly I am tempted to immediately start the next color instead of letting that one dry.

Batches of 15 - 16 models seem to be about the right size to paint in one go, but that does not really work since my units are typically in increments of five.

This, of course, might point to an issue with my list building. There is little reason to use 5 except it being a prime number and me liking that for a multiple.

We will see if I change my mindset as the project proceeds and I start playing the list a bit more often.

Bestigors Work

I want to stick with the basic color scheme I have developed. Varying shades of browns for their fir and skin, red hues for most clothing, a couple dashes of green for color and off we go.

As normal, I plan to make my champion albino. For some inexplicable reason I did not do this and instead base coated all them in brown.

Having learned from my efforts on the out-of-print Beastmen models (thank you Herdstone for the identification assistance), I elected to put some color on quickly. So next up is a splash of red.

For some bizarre reason my camera stopped flashing, so the pics are not exceptionally good. Actually, they are pretty bad...but they do highlight something I like which is the heavy dose of color the red brings. It really does a nice job in my opinion of meshing with the rather neutral and drab browns.

I am actually starting to like the 'feel" of the look I put together which is very nice since it kind of came about by accident.

I am not big on figuring out exactly what I am going to do on any given model. Generally I just look at it and think, "brown fur, red cloth, white on teeth, etc and dab in silver for weapons and copper on knick-knacks:. Then stuff I did not think about crops up.

Like belts, pouches, hanging tooth-totems, weapon handles, etc. And before I know it I have dripped on...well, I have 25 open bottles of water-based paint. before I started painting the Beastmen I did not even OWN water based paint...so I guess you know how many colors or at least shades of colors I am putting on the models, though in somewhat a haphazard fashion.

Case in point; I am already planning to do a wash/highlight on these figures in multiple shades of both brown and red. I am running I think 5 shades of brown and three of red. 2 of white, Several off-white/yellows.

But I would be better off if I spent a few minutes figuring out what each model SHOULD look like when I am done before I start instead of painting a color, looking at the unit, deciding in almost a random fashion what color to do next and applying it. We will see if I can develop more patience and planning skills.

Prepping the rest of the initial wave of models

One thing every decent to great painter emphasizes time and again is prep work; scrape the mold lines, prime the model.

Generally dark shades (typically black) are suggested for deeper color models, lighter colors...white...if you prefer brighter colors.

My well-known love for brightly covered models indicates I should use white primer. Unfortunately, in reality I seldom prime at all. I think it is part of my painting catch-22. I am not a good painter so I do not do the things good painters do, and because I do not do the thing good painters do I never will become a good painter.

The exception is metal models. They MUST be primed, even with oil paints. So I had a can of primer laying around. Somewhere during my move they got shuffled in with miscellaneous other items and here I do not really have a good place to indiscriminately spray primer, so I took the models and primer to work one morning.

I am NOT a morning person, seldom at my sharpest in the mornings. It was once said of me by a co-worker after watching me walk into work with my bleary-eyed gaze and not-really-awake carriage, "I am surprised you can even function in the morning, much less find a way to drive to work."

The connection? Priming disaster.

I could not find the black or white primer, so grabbed the gray.

Unfortunately, it did not turn out to be grey. I am not sure how well it shows up in the above picture, so I will show you a close-up of another unit.

Shiny gloss silver. I did not notice this in my early am stupor.

Now, I should probably strip the models. Unfortunately, I primed 3 minotaurs, 10 Bestigors, a chariot, 5 heroes, and 4 harpies.


I decided to go ahead and paint over the silver and see what happens. After all, while I AM trying to do a better paint job on this army than I have done on any other army, I am also doing a lot of experimentation. Maybe it will work out. We will see.

Finishing the second unit.

I have mentioned several times that I am an impatient painter. I would always rather be playing Warhammer or a video game, watching basketball, playing poker, playing the guitar, eating, watching a movie...well, you get the point.

But I have committed to doing as good a job as I can on this army. So even closing in on the end I am trying not to skip steps, just call it good enough and finish, or anything like that.

One of the primary reasons to hate painting with water...besides the oft-cited issues I have with it being dull, having poor coverage, etc...is it is so hard to get decent paints in the colors of gold, silver and copper.

I tried it anyway. And as you can see in the picture above, the results are...well...disappointing. I might try a different brand or something because these colors...they look horrible in the bottle, awful on the palette, and gruesome on the model.

I actually considered using oils for those colors. But I did not.

I then went with my horn base color. I still like the ivory look. So I painted them ivory. then, to create the shadows, I did a heavy black wash. This time, however, I did not thin it enough and forgot the glue. It was the epitome of a blown wash.

Then I should have done several light coats of dry brushed ivory. I did about one and called it good.Time to base them.

Once they are based, all that is left is to do the dip, glue on the magnet and slap them on their base.

I think this unit sort of shows a plateau. I think the Gor I did first were a big step forward in painting with water. These guys, if there is improvement, it is strictly marginal.

The legs I think look better, as does the hair. But the horns needed a couple more coats I think. A few places on the legs did as well. I am not happy with bleeding out of the hair. From the table top they will look fine, but up close...not very good.

I also forgot to do their beard hair.

Their fingers, chest and arm muscles, and leg fir all are improved, however, so I guess I am okay with the overall look.

And with the gloss applied, I am satisfied.

Continuing unit 2

I am taking fewer photos. Partially that is because I am doing a bit more with dry brushes and washes trying for a look of individuality without blending.

The Dwarf slayer army is known for having orange hair. I thought it would be funny to steal that idea so decided to slap some orange hair on these guys.

 I really like it for several reasons. First, it is yet another counterpoint to the brown earth-tones. Second, it sets of a different part of the models. I now have color high, a block of brown, then another splash of color so it ties the model together and acts more like highlights than color blocks on their own.

Next I wanted to offset their weapon handles a bit. I painted those, then did a pseudo-wash of the light, almost neon greens to deepen them a bit.

I think the look is really coming together. It was time for another bit of red. Again I splashed some on the weapons as if this group has already been fighting with some success.

I made a random decision the champion should be more successful, so I even gave him a bloody fist with a drop on his hoof as if he was dealing out punishment that led to splatters.

I finished with a wash, then a dry brush on their hair to add some reddish tinge to the orange, to break up the uniform look. I think their loin-cloths are starting to show some definition that will not fool anyone into thinking I am a great painter but is definitely superior to past efforts.

Things are coming together. Almost done with this unit.

Painting unit 2 proceeds

So with a splash of color applied, I decided to go with a wash. I am still struggling a bit with my wash technique.  I have been unable to get the mix exactly right.

If I were smart, I would go purchase some eye droppers to parcel it out in a pretty exact mix to help experiment with different ratios. Being me, however, I just keep trying combinations that look right to me.

This time I think I did not go heavy enough on the water.

I tried something a lot of people suggest, which is including a small amount of glue in the wash mix to act as sort of a binder. I think it looked better than most of my washes.

I then went back to the dry-brushing, but I think I erred a bit in using a color that was a bit too light. Below you can see the results.

Sure, the upraised fir on the legs stands out. It just looks terrible to me. Almost a grayish look in places.I also did the belts in orange to add a bit of extra color. I figure the orange fits the red touch in the first unit. I am debating even doing the hair in orange.

I notice I am getting a bit sloppy in some places. Some paint has slopped onto the horns. This could be problematic as I really like the ivory base coat, dark brown wash, ivory highlight look. Those patches of taupe could really affect that.

But then I started thinking it could have a really nice effect where it alters the shades on the horns randomly. After all, I want the units to look similar to provide cohesion but not identical. I am not running a bunch of clones here.

Of course, having just one pose for the model alters the perception. But since I do not know what these models are anyway, I might just use them as unit fillers elsewhere. We will see.

Unit 2 continued

This time, I did not want to paint for quite as long with them looking quite so drab as they did the first time so I jumped ahead and splashed on some red a bit earlier.

The thing is, I really do not like the base coat color. I find it difficult to paint colors I do not like but I need to stay with the process. Adding in color earlier really helps.

If I were to start the Beastmen painting project again, there is a real possibility I would go with a non-traditional color scheme. Maybe various shades of blue for fir and body. That is largely because of the feeling of drabness the models have during the process.

Again, being an impatient painter, it leads to impatience which is one reason this paint scheme is dangerous for me. So adding color will work on several fronts.

First, by adding a bit of color, it helps me like the look more. Second, it gave me a chance to work on their belt totems knowing I can over paint them later if they are poorly done.

Second, it also fits the generally accepted procedure of painting "inside out". That is, starting with the areas that are hardest to reach and working your way out to the outside edges.

 Now that I have some color, I can go ahead and drop the dark leg fir on them. I also tried something new. Once I had the leg and back fur painted, I watered down the mix a great deal more and did an early wash with it.

I am very happy with that choice as it deepens that weak, sickly taupe color. It also is giving some definition to their muscle masses and also addressed a lot of the coverage issues.

Since I went with green on the previous unit, I elected to do some more green with these guys. Again, I think it "brightens" the models a good deal which is important to me. I do not like dull, drab paint.

Funnily enough, I have been doing a lot of reading regarding painting recently and one of my tools to counter-act that is a tool many people look down on. I have already shown my post-dip versions of the Night Goblin archers and the Gor.

I am happy with those paint jobs because the dipping gave them the bright, glossy finish I personally love.

One of the harshest criticisms I heard of dipping is it does not allow a realistic look, partially because of the gloss. In a rather surprising news flash...painting up mythical creatures and races, no matter how well done it is, will never look realistic because the best you can possibly do is bring your own personal vision to plastic or metal life.

It is all well and good to paint shadow lines, blend shades, etc. to get a look you personally desire...but someone else might find it ugly.

I actually did those techniques on one model. I spent a lot of time working on blending instead of dry brushing ( a technique I still struggle with) and found it much easier than dry-brushing...but I did not like the look as much.

I may try it again, but ultimately, I want this army to look good to ME, not to random people I will probably never meet.

Obviously I would like people to think it looks good when I am finished, particularly because I am spending so much extra time and effort on it, but in the final analysis, it is ME they need to appeal to the most.

And dropping on some color, even colors I typically do not like such as green, but that work here, really helps me like the work I am putting forth.

Starting unit two

 I think I am pretty happy with how my first unit came out. Not top shelf painting by 'Eavy metal or Golden Demon standards, but in my eyes very decent for tabletop standard.

I know my washes, shadings, and drybrushing can use some work but that is kind of the idea of going to water based. To work on those areas.

So for my second unit, I am going with these guys.

I am not real sure what they are. They seem to have halberds, so it is possible they are supposed to be Bestigors. They are pretty old-school. Might even be some defunct unit such as Pestigors. Not sure.

Regardless, the plan is to again go with shades of brown as my base coats, red and green to provide some color, and see what happens.

As is my plan, the champion will be an albino. At this stage I am really liking the coverage I am getting. Counter-intuitively, this probably means I am not thinning the paint enough. The best painters seem to recommend taking several coats to complete a color.

One of my real weaknesses as a painter is I am not patient. I do not want to do multiple coats. I want to do a color once, be done, and finish the task as quickly as possible.

However, I am trying to do a better job on my Beastmen army, so that is something to watch in the future.

First unit completed

 It is always a little intimidating to me to look at a new unit to paint. I have to come up with a color scheme, come up with motivation, and find the time to paint.

As to process proceeds, however, it gets easier as color starts to bring the model...well, not to life,per se, but to a point where I think it looks pretty good for my talent level. Those words "for my talent level" are pretty key. I will never be a "Golden Demon" level painter. I have neither the patience, inclination, nor steady hand to do that. But what I can do is produce units I like the look of on the field.

Unfortunately, I have never really cared for dull or matte finishes. So I took the shortcut...I dipped them in gloss varnish.

Funny thing is...they look better to the naked eye (to me) than they do in this photo. Still, click on the picture, expand it and enjoy my first completed Beastmen unit.

The end is in sight

 From here on, most of it is washes, dry-brushes, and attempts to fix blown coverage. Part of the issue is this is all an experiment. I am not sure how to work it so when it is done it will look the way I want.

Some of them, like the left-most front row model, have light streaks I do not like. Others, like the right most model in the pic above somehow still have bare plastic showing.

 In the picture above, I had just done the lips using the smallest brush I have purchased. I also touched up things such as the symbol on the belt of the standard bearer. By this time I have done the rivets and so forth, though I still find a few later that do not pass muster.

In the picture above, I finally found a color to do all the miscellaneous wraps, thongs, etc in. It is a lighter green and done to break up the blocky browns a bit more. One thing i should point out. Early on i found a pattern where all the models fit together and have been sticking with it.

The plan is to build two movement trays for them. As they take casualties during the game I will move them from  the tray they are on to a duplicate one. this way I will always have them in the correct order and post-game picking up will essentially be done.

That is a major thing for me since that is part of the hobby I do not care for, the setting up and taking down of fields, units, etc.

For a final bit of color, I used orange for their hair-ties, and on the flag. I also free-hand drew a skull on the banner. No apparent reason...I just thought it "fit" the overall look. Just two steps left.

I spent a great deal of time thinking about how to base them. I considered the black sand/silver rock look of my Warriors of Chaos. I also considered doing black rock with cotton swabs for snow. In fact, even as late as driving home this evening, that was the plan.

It was derailed because traffic was brutal and I did not feel like stopping at the Dollar Tree. So I thought about some combination...maybe not even basing them tonight. But I am anxious to see how they look when finished.

I have really liked the look of the last couple green bases I have done and lots of players do the whole snow thing so I elected to go green. I like the look. Now to see if dipping them makes them look good.

Painting the Gor; the Wash

So here is the unit as it stood. I still wanted another color splotch somewhere. But it has to make sense.

Typically I would co with copper or gold for their wristbands etc. But these are mostly leather in appearance.

I like the look. There is a reason you see red and green together a lot at Christmas. Because they look good together. And with brown as my base, it is neutral enough that whatever colors I choose will complement the base so long as they complement each other.

I did briefly consider individualizing the models with varying shades of green but ultimately I struck a balance between speed, convenience, and making them all look like part of the same unit.

Now it was time to try and fix some of the coverage issues. I have never done a wash before.

So I read up on it a bit and gave it a shot. At first I was not going to do it on my unit champion, but then...well...I did.

So now the skin is darkening a bit. We will see if I like it or not.

Beastmen: More color

The above picture is a repost of my work to this point. This is a unit that is troubled. It has coverage issues and is pretty dull. These are sort of the reasons I am not fond of water. In oil I would almost be done with this unit at this point. Here I still have lots of work to do.

Their loin-cloths are kind of my best shot at color. They will not dominate the look but will definitely offer a counter-point to the overall drab look.

For the longest time I was leaning towards some sort of blue. My Warriors of Chaos are based around black and shades of red...red, purple, orange, anything in that color range. So going red would sort of be too close to that.

But..I did not have a blue water base paint. I did have a red. So I went with it.

Usually I do not really like the blood and gore. But in this case it adds a bit of color and makes them look more like a unit worthy of the Primal Fury rule. It sort of works here I think.

That little bit of color...I absolutely love it. Suddenly the unit turned from a drab, colorless affair to something with a hint of excitement.

Beastmen Gor: Color

Although the plan was to add color next, I noticed I had ivory colored paint. I had been trying to figure out what color to paint the horns.

That is a theme you might notice. Sometimes I have a very specific color palette I want to work with. Other times I just sort of pick a color, look it over, pick another color...that is what I am doing here. I started with light brown for the flesh, added dark brown for the legs, the black hooves and certain weapons picked themselves, I like the reflective silver so more blades...the paint is largely picking itself.

There are still certain trouble spots. I do not know what to do with the hair yet. The horn color was another. I have thought about going orange or red with the hair just to add some color to all the earth tones.

So the ivory felt like a stroke of genius. Not yellow in a garish way,, but still "lightening" the overall look. Not just a splash or two of color will really pop.

Now I think the look is really starting to come together. There are still some coverage issues, but the planned wash/dry-brushing should clear a lot of that up. I hope.

Gor Herd Coat 7

 One of my themes with this army will be champions. As a general rule there is no model set apart and clearly identifiable as a unit champion. Even if I assemble one that way, in the middle of a unit he hardly stands out enough.

Even I lose track of which model is my champion, so to make it easy on myself I just always put my units in the same order on the field: Standard Bearer, Musician and Champion next to each other. No model is specifically the champion because he looks different, he is the champion because he stands next to the standard.

For this army, I am changing that up. The plan is for elite units and unit champions to be albinos.

So above you can see I have put silver on the weapon blades, on some belt buckles, etc.

Now I am putting wood coloring on the staffs, weapon handles, etc. Next up: bring on some color.

That is one thing I am noticing. This unit is looking dark and brooding with little color. It is all earth tones. So yeah, next up...time to bring the color.

Gor Herd coat 5

I wanted to start deepening the tones on the chests. I went with sort of a reddish-brown pseudo-dry brush. If I had it to do over again I would probably have a less heavy hand, but that is part of the learning process so I am not overly concerned.

I am working hard to be patient even if a particular stage does not look the way I hoped it would. I probably should have done a wash here instead but again...it is a learning process.

I think on the next unit I will start with the basic block colors, then attempt a wash, then a couple darkening shades as dry brushes with a less heavy hand. But hey...I am making progress.

Gor Unit; Coat 4

Next I selected another basic, block color. The hooves will be black which will also let me do some minor weapons painting.

The plan is to splash a bit of red on weapons in the classic "Ha! We have drawn blood!" motif. Also thinking about having couple streaks on it on some of the front-line models. We will see.

Will go back later with black to hit up stuff like belt buckles, rivets on hoods, etc. Thinking it might be a good base color for the horns but did not go there yet.

I also purchased a super small brush and touched up the eyes and nostrils. As usual my eyes are too big. *Sigh*

We are coming to get you

Gor Unit Coat 3

Here I went with a darker brown for their leg fir. Later I plan to do a really light dry-brush of lighter browns to give a highlighted effect.

Meanwhile, the unit champ makes his first appearance. I suspect he is easy to spot...my idea is to make all unit champions Albinos.

If I like the look, I might do the same with Elite units such as Bestigors. part of the problem is getting white to look good.

Speaking of which, the plan is to paint their teeth white, then do a light coating of yellow. Heavier than a wash or drybrush but not deep enough to be a full coat. Doubt I can pull it off but I will try.

I notice one fellow to the left still has grey on his belly which reinforces my coverage problems. The funny thing is I thought I was not thinning the paint enough, but that makes it look like I am thinning it too much.

I will get better with experience.

I hope.

Beastmen Gor Coat 2

Click on the picture to expand it. Well, this coat felt good when I was applying it. I was really just trying to drybrush on some deeper color, but instead they are very, very splotchy. Hopefully a wash and then a drybrush of the basecoat color will fix that.

There are a couple of models that look really good but a couple of the others look like they have a rash or a bad breakout of Gor leprosy or something. On the bright side...it is water. Worst case, I wipe them off and start again. Best case...I love the look.